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		<title>By: Leigh</title>
		<link>http://www.transadvocate.com/stanton-speaks-out.htm/comment-page-#comment-1410</link>
		<dc:creator>Leigh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 02:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh shut up val .. you drive me to drink!

&lt;i&gt;&quot;For example, given the premise, &quot;all fish live underwater&quot; and &quot;all mackerel are fish&quot;, my wife will conclude, not that &quot;all mackerel live underwater&quot;, but that &quot;if she buys kippers it will not rain&quot;, or that &quot;trout live in trees&quot;, or even that &quot;I do not love her any more.&quot; This she calls &quot;using her intuition&quot;. I call it &quot;crap&quot;, and it gets me very *irritated* because it is not logical.&quot; ... John Cleese...&lt;/i&gt;

ALL Women ARE illogical ...  do you understand dear ?

BTW .. as a brit I happen to love dry comedy :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh shut up val .. you drive me to drink!</p>
<p><i>&#8220;For example, given the premise, &#8220;all fish live underwater&#8221; and &#8220;all mackerel are fish&#8221;, my wife will conclude, not that &#8220;all mackerel live underwater&#8221;, but that &#8220;if she buys kippers it will not rain&#8221;, or that &#8220;trout live in trees&#8221;, or even that &#8220;I do not love her any more.&#8221; This she calls &#8220;using her intuition&#8221;. I call it &#8220;crap&#8221;, and it gets me very *irritated* because it is not logical.&#8221; &#8230; John Cleese&#8230;</i></p>
<p>ALL Women ARE illogical &#8230;  do you understand dear ?</p>
<p>BTW .. as a brit I happen to love dry comedy <img src='http://www.transadvocate.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Val</title>
		<link>http://www.transadvocate.com/stanton-speaks-out.htm/comment-page-#comment-1409</link>
		<dc:creator>Val</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 20:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In all honesty, I don&#039;t think Leigh has enough grasp of syllogism to see what how revealingly absurd this all is. The point is not that she really thinks that &quot;all real women are heterosexual&quot; but that her efforts to sustain as rigid as possible an &quot;us against them&quot; are so ill-considered, based on such worthlessly prejudicial generalizations, that in fact her own &quot;meanings&quot; twist by themselves into non-sequiturs worthy of the driest comedy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In all honesty, I don&#8217;t think Leigh has enough grasp of syllogism to see what how revealingly absurd this all is. The point is not that she really thinks that &#8220;all real women are heterosexual&#8221; but that her efforts to sustain as rigid as possible an &#8220;us against them&#8221; are so ill-considered, based on such worthlessly prejudicial generalizations, that in fact her own &#8220;meanings&#8221; twist by themselves into non-sequiturs worthy of the driest comedy.</p>
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		<title>By: Stellewriter</title>
		<link>http://www.transadvocate.com/stanton-speaks-out.htm/comment-page-1#comment-1408</link>
		<dc:creator>Stellewriter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 18:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are we doing????

With no regard to the original subject of this blog, what are we now doing?  IT stinks!  What we as the Trans-community have now ended up doing, is no less than acting out the strife that HRC and the greater GLBt wants us to portray. By our infighting and tearing apart of our bonds they become strong.  Their self-absorbed and elitist vision for power and control is what drives HRC and the militant gay community.  Please, understand that I am not talking about the loving and kind gay community, rather, the Sturmabteilung and backroom body grabbers the likes of Barney Frank and ilk.   It is all about diverting the public’s attention from their moving into power positions within corporate America and it wealth for strictly self-serving means.   It is not about equality.  One cannot proclaim equality and ignore others who should share it the rights of common wellbeing.  When B. Frank spoke on the floor, he literally was speaking treason and against the very fabric of our constitution and billing of rights.  It can be said no other way, as the courts have already defined that stance, and in the days of George Wallace a matter of unconstitutional and discriminatory practice.  HRC and the thugs surrounding Joe Solmonese are telling us that we are not welcome to use the public toilets, and that we cannot drink from the public fountain.

They are telling us that we are not fit to hold meaningful jobs and that we are freaks who are not acceptable to the society.  They did this publically, and in the backroom worked up a plan toe keep us divisive so as to be seen as freaks by society.  There is no way around the matter.  We are the propaganda tool for the “New Elite” or “pan-Aryan” mentality.   We are the ones chosen to be maligned and abused so the money and power laden gay aristocracy can go unchallenged and unnoticed.   While they slide into more and more of the fabric of society carefully showing themselves as relative conservatives in middle road family living, we on the other hand are daily sliding into the realm of the bizarre and perceived danger zone.  A gay boy scout leader is almost now acceptable, but a GID father is to be literally sent to the concentration camps of despair and sure death.  It is bigotry, inequality, intolerance, unfairness, chauvinism, sexism, racism, bias, insularity, prejudice,…. it is “Discrimination” – Do You Get It?   The very organization that claims the throne for equality is the single most active force in denying the Transgender simple subsistence.  It is the new gay sectarian snobbery, which has worked to control other gay and lesbian enclaves and subordinate them.  Worse, they have actively separated and divided the Trans-community so as to use us as a diversion. We are HRC millions behind in ability, and legislatively separated (segregated), and we are ripping each others clothes off exposing our weaknesses.  History is repeating its self in an awful way.

Everyone may see this as radical, but it follows history in great detail.  It is a political strategy that has worked.  It is working now!   I remember clearly the comments of a child of the Holocaust, he said he was dumbfounded to discover that his own father, a minister in 30’sGermany was duped by the propaganda of the era.  First it was the Transgender / Effeminates  who were singled out, followed by spurious fringe groups, then political threats and press, educators, the church and finally the Jews.    I have no doubt that we are duped, and so is the public.  No doubt at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are we doing????</p>
<p>With no regard to the original subject of this blog, what are we now doing?  IT stinks!  What we as the Trans-community have now ended up doing, is no less than acting out the strife that HRC and the greater GLBt wants us to portray. By our infighting and tearing apart of our bonds they become strong.  Their self-absorbed and elitist vision for power and control is what drives HRC and the militant gay community.  Please, understand that I am not talking about the loving and kind gay community, rather, the Sturmabteilung and backroom body grabbers the likes of Barney Frank and ilk.   It is all about diverting the public’s attention from their moving into power positions within corporate America and it wealth for strictly self-serving means.   It is not about equality.  One cannot proclaim equality and ignore others who should share it the rights of common wellbeing.  When B. Frank spoke on the floor, he literally was speaking treason and against the very fabric of our constitution and billing of rights.  It can be said no other way, as the courts have already defined that stance, and in the days of George Wallace a matter of unconstitutional and discriminatory practice.  HRC and the thugs surrounding Joe Solmonese are telling us that we are not welcome to use the public toilets, and that we cannot drink from the public fountain.</p>
<p>They are telling us that we are not fit to hold meaningful jobs and that we are freaks who are not acceptable to the society.  They did this publically, and in the backroom worked up a plan toe keep us divisive so as to be seen as freaks by society.  There is no way around the matter.  We are the propaganda tool for the “New Elite” or “pan-Aryan” mentality.   We are the ones chosen to be maligned and abused so the money and power laden gay aristocracy can go unchallenged and unnoticed.   While they slide into more and more of the fabric of society carefully showing themselves as relative conservatives in middle road family living, we on the other hand are daily sliding into the realm of the bizarre and perceived danger zone.  A gay boy scout leader is almost now acceptable, but a GID father is to be literally sent to the concentration camps of despair and sure death.  It is bigotry, inequality, intolerance, unfairness, chauvinism, sexism, racism, bias, insularity, prejudice,…. it is “Discrimination” – Do You Get It?   The very organization that claims the throne for equality is the single most active force in denying the Transgender simple subsistence.  It is the new gay sectarian snobbery, which has worked to control other gay and lesbian enclaves and subordinate them.  Worse, they have actively separated and divided the Trans-community so as to use us as a diversion. We are HRC millions behind in ability, and legislatively separated (segregated), and we are ripping each others clothes off exposing our weaknesses.  History is repeating its self in an awful way.</p>
<p>Everyone may see this as radical, but it follows history in great detail.  It is a political strategy that has worked.  It is working now!   I remember clearly the comments of a child of the Holocaust, he said he was dumbfounded to discover that his own father, a minister in 30’sGermany was duped by the propaganda of the era.  First it was the Transgender / Effeminates  who were singled out, followed by spurious fringe groups, then political threats and press, educators, the church and finally the Jews.    I have no doubt that we are duped, and so is the public.  No doubt at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Leigh</title>
		<link>http://www.transadvocate.com/stanton-speaks-out.htm/comment-page-#comment-1407</link>
		<dc:creator>Leigh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 17:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, that isn&#039;t what I am saying and you well know that.  But then again Val, there is nothing I can say that you don&#039;t twist to your own meaning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, that isn&#8217;t what I am saying and you well know that.  But then again Val, there is nothing I can say that you don&#8217;t twist to your own meaning.</p>
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		<title>By: Val</title>
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		<dc:creator>Val</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 16:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, this is so spectacularly stupid that I just have to be more blunt about it.

Is Leigh really now claiming that the defining characteristic of a &quot;true (non-transgendered) transsexual&quot; is that they are necessarily heterosexual?

From which it follows that all real women (since HBS women are &quot;real women&quot; in a very narrrow sense particular to Leigh and her cohort) are also necessarily heterosexual.

Wow. What a stupendously sexist position to take, just to keep your ideology pure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, this is so spectacularly stupid that I just have to be more blunt about it.</p>
<p>Is Leigh really now claiming that the defining characteristic of a &#8220;true (non-transgendered) transsexual&#8221; is that they are necessarily heterosexual?</p>
<p>From which it follows that all real women (since HBS women are &#8220;real women&#8221; in a very narrrow sense particular to Leigh and her cohort) are also necessarily heterosexual.</p>
<p>Wow. What a stupendously sexist position to take, just to keep your ideology pure.</p>
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		<title>By: Val</title>
		<link>http://www.transadvocate.com/stanton-speaks-out.htm/comment-page-1#comment-1405</link>
		<dc:creator>Val</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 15:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; the transgenders and the gays, all of whom believe that all transsexuals are at their core… GAY.

I gather that you live in a very small, airless cardboard box furnished only with dirty mirrors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; the transgenders and the gays, all of whom believe that all transsexuals are at their core… GAY.</p>
<p>I gather that you live in a very small, airless cardboard box furnished only with dirty mirrors.</p>
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		<title>By: Leigh</title>
		<link>http://www.transadvocate.com/stanton-speaks-out.htm/comment-page-#comment-1404</link>
		<dc:creator>Leigh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 05:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Susan is less than a year old and still wet behind the ears.  She is as a meteor, a short burst of light across the night sky that will cool and fade. Only then will she be able to start and hopefully finish the transition she gave up so much to accomplish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Susan is less than a year old and still wet behind the ears.  She is as a meteor, a short burst of light across the night sky that will cool and fade. Only then will she be able to start and hopefully finish the transition she gave up so much to accomplish.</p>
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		<title>By: Leigh</title>
		<link>http://www.transadvocate.com/stanton-speaks-out.htm/comment-page-1#comment-1403</link>
		<dc:creator>Leigh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 05:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;B&gt;&lt;i&gt;&quot;Susan Stanton said that the intensity of the hostility she received from transgender people was “far worse” than the hostility she encountered from straights who demanded she be fired from her city manager’s job.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/B&gt;

..... And THAT ladies, gentlemen and the undecided hoards is the REAL story here. I have said time and again that if your heterosexual AND transsexual you will be tar&#039;d and feathered by the transgenders and the gays, all of whom believe that all transsexuals are at their core... GAY.

Hopefully Susan Stanton will see the writing on the wall and decide if she will become a woman or a pin up for the GLBT ..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><i>&#8220;Susan Stanton said that the intensity of the hostility she received from transgender people was “far worse” than the hostility she encountered from straights who demanded she be fired from her city manager’s job.&#8221;</i></b></p>
<p>&#8230;.. And THAT ladies, gentlemen and the undecided hoards is the REAL story here. I have said time and again that if your heterosexual AND transsexual you will be tar&#8217;d and feathered by the transgenders and the gays, all of whom believe that all transsexuals are at their core&#8230; GAY.</p>
<p>Hopefully Susan Stanton will see the writing on the wall and decide if she will become a woman or a pin up for the GLBT ..</p>
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		<title>By: Samantha Davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samantha Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 02:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason why we won&#039;t let this die is because we want to make sure that Stanton, and others who would do the same, are held responsible for their actions.

As far as I&#039;m concerned, I&#039;m just going to sit back and watch Stanton&#039;s fortunes wither away. Maybe tomorrow she will better understand what it means to face discrimination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason why we won&#8217;t let this die is because we want to make sure that Stanton, and others who would do the same, are held responsible for their actions.</p>
<p>As far as I&#8217;m concerned, I&#8217;m just going to sit back and watch Stanton&#8217;s fortunes wither away. Maybe tomorrow she will better understand what it means to face discrimination.</p>
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		<title>By: Stellewriter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stellewriter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 20:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My last words regarding Susan Stanton....

I am moving on!

There are bigger issues we need to focus on instead of the foment which is being rehashed by the media. Why is this continuing anyway?  Do you suppose a lot of HRC and GLBt pressure is at play?  Do you suppose that the liberal gay laden press is having a field day?

How about we drop it and focus on smaller issues like:

• Equality and recognition under the law.
• Equal medical access and treament
• Right to work without discrimiation and harrassment
• Recognition and fair treatment by social and community services.

And so on... Let move on! Susan can sort her life out on her own, and our silence regarding her may speak louder than even the HRC and the GLBt can imagine.

On The other issues....Take up arms and let&#039;s fight! Let&#039;s get going and move on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My last words regarding Susan Stanton&#8230;.</p>
<p>I am moving on!</p>
<p>There are bigger issues we need to focus on instead of the foment which is being rehashed by the media. Why is this continuing anyway?  Do you suppose a lot of HRC and GLBt pressure is at play?  Do you suppose that the liberal gay laden press is having a field day?</p>
<p>How about we drop it and focus on smaller issues like:</p>
<p>• Equality and recognition under the law.<br />
• Equal medical access and treament<br />
• Right to work without discrimiation and harrassment<br />
• Recognition and fair treatment by social and community services.</p>
<p>And so on&#8230; Let move on! Susan can sort her life out on her own, and our silence regarding her may speak louder than even the HRC and the GLBt can imagine.</p>
<p>On The other issues&#8230;.Take up arms and let&#8217;s fight! Let&#8217;s get going and move on!</p>
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