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Seriously?

A question:

An answer:

And evidence that, on teh Aravosis front, whatever year next a legitimate ENDA is introduced will be the next 2007:

I’ve been on the receiving end of a lot of hateful crap from gay people too about this.  People I know and considered friends, who still don’t treat me the same after years since I dared express an opinion.  I’m not talking about some people in the trans community being mean. I’m talking about a culture being created where no one can question anything the trans community says or does, even if it direct affects our civil rights, such as the ENDA battle. We weren’t even entitled to an opinion on that one, even though it was our civil rights bill being debated.  You express an opinion and you are destroyed, and continually destroyed again and again and again to pay for the sin of disagreeing with the collective, or simply asking a question that they don’t approve of.

You mean like the 99.99% of trans people who are equally or better qualified than those non-trans people (gay and straight) who are allowed to be gainfully employed by the corporate gay rights industry but who were blacklisted from the corporate gay rights industry for daring to question the wisdom of the HRC collective on trans-inclusion in ENDA as a purely educational (you know?  education?) during a time when there was no chance of any ENDA getting any closer to enactment than Barney Frank’s underwear?

Po, po, pi’ful John.

He’s just like those oh-so-financially-emaciated, oh-so-politically-excluded corporations that have bought convinced judges that a horde of 297,000,000 Snidely Whiplashes have tied them to the railroad track of ideas and a train of evil democracy is headed their way – well, not all courts anyway:

[T]he notion that corporations are disadvantaged in the political realm is unbelievable. Indeed, it has astounded most Americans.

The notion that whte gay men – whether named Aravosis or Savage or Crain or whatever – are disadvantaged in any way whatsoever within the LGBT political realm is unbelievable.

A question of a different sort:

Am I allowed to bring up that time you blamed evil trannies for ruining ENDA for everyone else? There’s a reason people think you’re anti trans…

…gives way to an answer of the same old sort:

Do you mean the time you decided to sabotage employment protections for millions of gay, lesbian and bisexual Americans, and when gay people dared to voice an opinion about the future of their own civil rights bill that their community had been working on for over 30 years, you excoriated them and called them haters, telling them that they had no right to voice an opinion on the future of their own civil rights – is that the time you’re thinking of?  By the way, has the trans community decided to hold off on marriage until gay people get that same right nationwide?  I seem to remember top trans activists getting married, for years now.  Which confused me, since supposedly we’re all supposed to wait until everyone else “in the community” gets the same right too.  Can you explain that to us, why straight trans people are getting married?

…and another:

But it’s not really all or nothing, as straight trans people continue to get married while many gay people can’t (and no gay married couple enjoys rights at the federal level, while married straight trans people do). And I’m sure it’s “hateful” to point out that hypocrisy.

Hypocrisy?

You mean like ‘marriage or else’ being mandatory but ‘trans-inclusion or else’ being insane?

I have found, sadly, that the PC police go a lot farther than just some fringe in the trans community.  Their allies include a lot of senior people in the gay community who to this day still treat me differently because I dared, several years ago, to ask questions publicly that no one is supposed to ever ask.

Maybe I’m being too serious here.  The weekend approaches, after all.

Lets end with a joke, shall we?

Two people walk into a bar…

Wait, lets re-work that.

Two lawyers walk into a corporatist gay cesspool of transphobia on Rhode Island Avenue in D.C.  The two are applying for a position that the corporatist gay cesspool of transphobia on Rhode Island Avenue in D.C. will fill that day – and the two are the only two applying for the position.

One of the two is a gay man.

The other is a transsexual woman.

The punch line involves who gets the position.

But I don’t need to type out the punchline, because you know who will get the job – no matter how qualified the transsexual woman is – whether named Katrina Rose or not – and no matter how qualified the gay man isn’t – whether named John Aravosis or not (and lets face it: the outcome would be even more of a certainty at the allegedly more-trans-friendly NGLTF.)

Oh yes…

We’ve all heard the rumors that a certain corporatist gay cesspool of transphobia on Rhode Island Avenue in D.C. might actually go the Michael Trans Steele route when it coronates a new head later this spring.

And that would change the reality-based punchline of that joke about as much as five years has changed The John.

[Cross-posted at ENDABlog]

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Transadvocate contributor: Kat  (208 Posts)


  • Kathleen

    I await his asking bisexuals the marriage question – and gay men why they didn’t hold off on accepting health insurance while trans people are still discriminated against in that area. Hey – even partner health insurance benefits prior to getting rid of that discrimination. Did trans people tell them they shouldn’t accept those? Nonsense.

    But wait – when an opponent is making an ass of himself – shouldn’t we just let him continue?

  • Julian Morrison

    I guess folks haven’t destroyed him hard enough. Do it again?

  • Anonymous

    He’s supposed to be an ‘ally’  , you know like Dan Savage, the Exterminationalist Twins,  Barney Frank, Chris Crain…..

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jennifer-Lynn/100001358454499 Jennifer Lynn

    I’m a Transsexual woman that can get married and have several fights going on because of who I am but I still fight for gay marriage & rights. Equal treatment & rights in every aspect. It’s what this country was made for! Freedom! Not living under harsh rule! For the religious; God is Love! Jesus came for the outcasts. He commanded us to love each other the way he loves us. We should let the light of our love shine as a beacon to draw people to God so he may come into their life & fulfill it. Do we know what God has planned for everybody? No. Maybe they should worry about carrying out God’s plan of loving everybody instead of spreading hate? Total equality for everyone! I’m not going to stop until we have it or they put me in the ground. I’m a member of the Trans Panther Party & damn proud of it!

  • MarleneB

    As someone who worked with organizers from the Task Force, I’m convinced they’re for *complete* inclusion, Kat.

    Last year, they sent a number of organizers and paid staff to help a coalition to little Bowling Green, Ohio defend two non-discrimination ordinances. They also gave us two challenge grants to help in funding our campaign.

    The campaign head contacted the state and national HRC for help, and all they did was give us a token donation and more or less told us “don’t call us, we’ll call you”.

    As far as *I’m* concerned, the HRC doesn’t care for either the blue collar/service employee, or those who work outside the beltway.

  • http://translegalhistorian.wordpress.com/ Kat

    “As someone who worked with organizers from the Task Force, I’m convinced they’re for *complete* inclusion, Kat.”

    I think you need to re-read the piece to see what I was actually criticizing the Task Farce for (not) doing.